

CH Whiteoak's Dealer's Choice II
"Brett"
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I had the privilege of meeting Tom and Myra Flynn about fourteen
years ago. Someone gave me their name when we were looking for a
quality Sheltie. I called them and they did have a very nice
breeding planned. The breeding took and we went out to pick our
first girl. The rest is history with Laurelen and Whiteoak. We
have become close friends and sister kennels in the subsequent
years.
Tom and Myra had been breeding and showing for several years
before they took us under their wings, and helped us to get a
start. The Flynns have been a huge help to many others who are
trying to get started, or who just need encouragement and
support. They have a way of making people feel successful and
not so 'lost', as many began to feel after a few times at the
show ring!
Even though they have been friends with many well known
breeders, they never look down on anyone who is trying to make
their way in this difficult sport. They have had many successes
and bred and finished more than a few Champions. They are always
ready to give a smile and a helping hand to anyone who needs
it. The Flynns have so much experience and have bred so many
nice dogs that they are a wealth of information and interesting
facts.
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I think they will be remembered, by many, as successful in
breeding quality dogs and also successful in the very
important part of the hobby, called sportsmanship.
I hope you enjoy our chat with Myra about their years in
Shelties and their hopes for the future.
Kathy Rhoades
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Kathy: 1. How
many years now?
Myra:
We began with our first pet Sheltie in 1985, so it has been 24 -25
years now.
2.
Why did you choose to get your first Sheltie? What about the
breed attracted you? what color was your first?
I saw a copy of Dog World
Magazine on the newsstand and it had a picture of a Sheltie on the
front. I loved the picture, so purchased the magazine and read the
wonderful article about Shelties. I fell in love with the breed
from that article which glowingly (and correctly) described their
high level of intelligence, beauty and sensitivity. I immediately
began the search to find one of my own. I was like most people new
to the breed and LOVED the sables, so that is the color I wanted and
began with.
3.
How did you happen to decide to show dogs and to start breeding?
After we had our first
Sheltie for a while, we thought she might like a companion while we
were at work, so we began a search for a second Sheltie. We
purchased our second - also a sable - from a show breeder in the
Cincinnati area who invited us to go to the Miami Valley Sheltie
Club meetings with her. We joined the club, began going to matches
and really caught the show bug.
Once you get into showing,
I think it is probably every persons' dream to breed your own home
bred champion so we began looking for our foundation bitch so we
could produce our own home bred Champion..
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4.
Which dogs were your first Champions? When did they finished?
We purchased our first
American champion from Jan Bellaire of Michigan. We had admired CH
Willow Layne's Makin' Out and wanted to try to purchase a son to
show. Sharon Schutte (Randy's owner) helped us find Sandy, a sable
male. He completed his American Championship in the summer of 1993
and became CH Cornerstone's Makin' Images In 1994, we took a
nice 10 day trip to Canada and finished Sandy's Canadian
championship.

Myra and
Sandy - First Champion
Am/Can Ch Cornerstone's Makin' Images
Am/Can Ch Willow Layne's Makin' Out ROM ROMC
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Can Ch Cornerstone's Classic Image
Our first home bred Champion finished
in Spring of the next year. Her name was Ch Whiteoak's Easter Bonnet.
Bonnie was a bi blue daughter of Ch Starhaven's Ralph Lauren and our foundation bitch, Cedarhope
Whiteoak Starfall.
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Tom and Sandy in Canada
Am/Can Ch
Cornerstone's Makin' Images

Ch
Whiteoak's Easter Bonnet... Bonnie
Myra's first homebred
Champion.
Handled by Amy Langhorst
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6.
Do you remember the excitement of that
first champion? Is it still as thrilling as it was the first time?
Oh yes, I remember the
call from Julie Desy telling us that Sandy had finished. It seemed
to take FOREVER, though he was only three and had not really been
campaigned that much. I remember much more vividly the weekend that
Bonnie finished. She was on the road with Carl Langhorst. Tom
answered the phone, said a few words, and came back into the room
and said 'well, Bonnie took a major today' so calmly I didn't
believe him. Then, the next day Carl called to tell us that Bonnie
had won Winner's Bitch AGAIN - and had completed her championship.
Bonnie finished very quickly in about 5 or 6 shows.
Any win is still very
thrilling to me, but especially if there are points involved or a
completion of a championship!
7.
I know you are not color blind, but....did you have a preference for
a particular color in your early breeding program? did that change
over the years at all?
OH YES! We began with the AOAC's in our breeding program - our first champion was a bi blue.
However, I have always had a soft sport in my heart for the sables -
maybe because that was the color of our first pet. They are all
gorgeous, any color, but I am partial to the sables. I believe that
Tom - my husband - might lean more toward the blues. Ever since his
Bonnie was born, he has always loved the little blue girls.
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The BIG picture!!
First place Stud Dog class
2009 ASSA National Specialty
CH
Whiteoak's Dealers' Choice II "Brett"
with Solange
Significant and Solange Surround Sound (11 points
three majors)
Judge Dorothy
Christiansen, Jessica Starbuck, Joel McCarty and
Marni Sharoff
Photo by
Dean VonPusch
8.
What is most exciting to you in your breeding program
right now? do you have a master plan?
Well...I can not even
begin to tell you how thrilled I was at our Ch Brett's win in the
Stud Dog class at the 2009 ASSA National Specialty. There were some
VERY impressive dogs and their offspring in that class. Prior to
the National, Bret had been 'recognized' by some breeders who were
willing to ship their bitches in to us. I am especially grateful to
Jennifer Tuttle (Fairway Shelties) and Linda Nicholas (Solange) for
noticing Brett at a couple of prior Nationals and seeing in him
qualities that they were looking for in a stud dog for their
beautiful girls. I can never thank them enough for sending their
beautiful bitches all the way from North Carolina to be bred to a
little 'nobody' dog in Ohio.. Their offspring are proving that the
combination worked , two of them had acquired their majors before
the age of 1 year. -- Linda's puppies were the two gorgeous
offspring shown with Brett in the stud dog class at the National and
I believe a HUGE reason that he won that quality packed class. I am
very excited at what the future may bring from the very nice bitches
who we have been so fortunate to host since the National win. We
have a few 'aces up our sleeve' in the whelping box too, don't we
Kathy?
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9.
Do you think the overall look of Shelties has changed much in all
these years? do you think that certain traits come and go through
the years? have you seen them change and then become something
different?
When we first began
showing Shelties, I remember them being much more compact and rather
short bodied and 'stubby'. I remember a VERY popular male Champion
who it seems that everyone wanted to breed to. The dog had a
beautiful face and expression, but moved very poorly. After his
popularity, you would see many dogs in the ring who were very poor
moving, but had beautiful faces, so he did reproduce himself well.
Recently,
it seems to me that more breeders are seeking out nice bodies along
with pretty faces and heads. A very well known breeder told me
years ago 'if you have good bodies, don't breed away from
that'. Her words of advice were 'a nice head is only a generation
away, but if you lose the body, you may never get it back'.
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10.
Are you pretty happy with the direction you are going with your
program? What would you like to change?
I am EXTREMELY happy with
our breeding program right now and -I hope she will leave this in ---
Kathy Rhoades has been a huge part of our success. I really
appreciate her ideas, encouragement and little nudges in the right
direction. The only thing I would change would be to turn back the
clock about 10 years. I wish we had been at this point at an
earlier age to give us more time to enjoy the 'ride' before we have
to hang up the leash.
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Ch
Whiteoak's Dealer's Choice II "Brett"
Championship picture
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Ch
Whiteoak's Dealers' Choice II
"Brett"
Handled by Jessica Starbuck
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11.
What takes your breath away when you see a dog in the ring?
BEAUTIFUL MOVEMENT! I
like to think - and believe I am right - that our Brett has
beautiful movement. The one moment that stands in my memory is
the entrance that Jessica (Starbuck) made with him at the National
at St. Louis. Brett was the 'lead dog' of the 2nd or 3rd group
coming into the ring. Being the consummate handler she is, Jessica
timed the moment perfectly, burst into the ring with him and it was
QUITE an entrance. They floated around the ring, well ahead of the
other dogs - I think Jessica took them by surprise by taking off so
quickly. It did quite literally take my breath away and still does
when I think about it.
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12.
Which are some of the dogs that have really impressed you from years
ago??? and now? is there something special that attracts you to
them?
Like most of the breed
fanciers, I have long admired Jade Mist Beyond Tradition and the
Jade Mist dogs for their gorgeous expression and faces. I probably
tend to like a kennel look more so than a particular dog. There are
some kennels that just are 'known' for their beautiful dogs --
Shellhaven of Canada, of course Jade Mist, Laureate - also of
Canada. There are many others, I shouldn't have begun naming
names. One of my 'things' that I have held fast to over the years
is a good rear on a dog. I am attracted to dogs that look great
going away from me! I have finally learned what a good front looks
like and that is poetry in motion! Of course, a pretty face is a
HUGE plus, too.
13.
Is there any dog from your years in Shelties that you would like to
see in your kennel? what was special about that dog?
There
was always something 'special' about CH Hannalore Tiger Rag that
stole my heart every time I saw him. He was just such a beautiful
dog with such an outgoing, friendly temperament. Of course, I DO
realize that he was a BLUE dog, but I like to think it was the sable
influence behind him that I was drawn to.
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Ch Whiteoak's Queen of Diamonds - "Lucy"
Litter sister to
Carrie, Brett's mom
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Ch Jubilee of Whiteoak Laurelen
Ch Belmar
Joker's Wild x Whiteoak's Card Party |
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Whiteoak Laurelen Incorrigible
Owned by Dr Rebecca Golatski |
14.
Is there anything about
our hobby/sport that you would change is you could? Is
there anything about it that still, ABSOLUTELY get a
thrill out of doing?
The one thing that I would
change is the back biting and jealousy over another person's dogs.
I have been involved with both types of people - those that are
truly happy for you when you have a winner and those that can only
find fault with your dog (s) when they are winning. It's human
nature and a very competitive sport, so I know that you can't always
have true supporters, but there is nothing like the feeling of
genuine support from your peers.
I still get a terrific
thrill out of a new litter - either our own or someone else's. A
relative newcomer from the Cleveland area has shared the whole
experience with me, from the breeding to Brett, the anxiety and hope
of a healthy delivery with little or no complications, through that
experience and on to their daily development. I am truly enjoying
the daily updates and LOVE to hear about puppies from our dogs that
live elsewhere. Again, it's so nice to be able to share the
successes --- and it even helps to share the disappointments with
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Whiteoak's Card Party ( Brett's Dam) - "Carrie"
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15.
What
faults would you say you can not tolerate?
Rusty Cromer always
says, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.“ I always keep
this in mind when faced with certain minor faults that are pet
peeves . But if I had to pick one thing that I would eliminate a
really nice dog from my breeding program for and couldn’t tolerate,
it would have to be Bad Temperaments.
16.
What is your usual routine for whelping and raising your litters? Do
you enjoy the whelping part...or dread it, like I do.. <smile>
After a bitch is bred, she becomes a total
housedog if she isn't already (others go outside most of the day). I
try to get the whelping box all scrubbed and ready about 2 weeks before
her delivery date to allow her to sleep in it if she chooses. The
whelping box is in our bedroom where I can keep a close eye on
her during this time. I LOVE having puppies, although I am a bit
anxious until that first one is out and doing well.
17.
About how many litters do you have a year??
We usually have at least one litter a year,
sometimes two. It is usually determined by which bitches are due to be
bred.
18.
At what age to you usually wean your puppies, and what do you feed them?
I usually allow the mother to determine
exactly when the puppies are fully weaned. Some of our bitches will
begin trying to wean them as early as 3 weeks of age. I don't like to
completely take them away from their mom until around 7 or 8 weeks. We
begin feeding them a gruel mixture at around 3 weeks of age, when their
eyes are open and they can stand on their own pretty well.
19.
At what age do puppies from your lines stop growing.. or slow way down?
Our sable line seems to slow way down
around 6 months of age. Then they take a one or two week growth spurt
and quit completely. A few of them have been 'over the chart' from 8
weeks until around 5 months, but then slow way down and end up around 15
or 15 1/2 inches tall.
Whiteoak Laurelen Winning Colors
"Marcia Brady"Several
reserves, not yet two years old...
Lauren Boston,
handler and co breeder/owner.
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20.
When do they fall apart..and do they often come back together?
Do you usually have bloomy puppy fliers??
It's interesting to me....some of the
puppies get very unappealing in looks around 4 or 5 months, others just
seem to grow, holding the same look, just becoming larger images of
themselves.
21.
Are there certain lines that you think work best with your dogs?
I do think that line breeding works best,
bitches with same or similar dogs in their background seem to work very
well. There is one lady in Pa. who saw one of our ads and bred to Brett
because of 'Phenotype', and her dogs DO look very much like ours, though
the pedigrees differ quite a bit. She now has a beautiful 5 month old
male who does look like both sides of the family.
22.
What tests do you require for bitches coming to be bred? Do you do your
own AI's? What do you use to collect?
I require a Brucellosis test. It is
also nice if the bitch has had her hips OFA'd, though if her 'family'
are free from dysplasia, I don't necessarily require the OFA to be done
before breeding her. I do my own AI's, though we work with a wonderful
vet in Kentucky (Dr. Becky Golatski) who is VERY well versed in the
breed. I have learned a LOT from her about how to deal with a busy stud
dog and keep him healthy. Dr Becky is well known in our area for her
expertise and she actually has a dog from one of our breedings.
23.
How many times do you usually breed a bitch that visits?
I like to breed a visitor at least
three times, and after that it depends on where she is in her
season. If she is a very receptive bitch and we began breeding
her 'early', I have done up to 6 breedings. When we get nice
bitches to breed to our boy, I really want them to go home
pregnant!
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BISS Solange
Surround Sound
"Dolby"
Ch Whiteoak's Dealer's Choice
II x Solange Body Language
2009 ASSA National:
1st in 9-12 month Futurity class under
Barbara Aulbach
3rd in 9-12 month puppy class under
Dorothy Christianson
From a quality packed litter bred by Linda Nicholas
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24.
Did you have any initial problems when you started your
breeding program or your first times in the breed ring?
If you did...how did you work that out or compensate?
I don't remember any
problems other than my own inability to groom. It was -
and I think still is - very difficult to find someone
willing to take the time and effort to teach new comers. Since
we began, the Sheltie clubs have begun to sponsor
grooming workshops and seminars which are very helpful.
I can not think of any
specific problems we've had in our breeding program.
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Ch
Whiteoak's Dealers' Choice II (right)
and
kids:
BISS Solange Surround Sound (Dolby)
3 majors, Fairway High Maintenance, (Barbie) two majors
and
Solange Significant
(Signi)
Photo by Jennifer
Tuttle
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25.
What do you think you have achieved with each of your Champions?
Any thoughts?
With our first Champion, I
believe we proved ourselves to the handlers and breeders
who live locally. It proved that we could purchase a
nice dog and had the dedication to follow through to
take him to his championship. Our second CH was home
bred, that one, I think, proved to those people that we
had learned enough about the breed to breed our own
CH.
26. What is your criteria when choosing a stud dog other
than structure and movement?
I look at the
offspring that stud dog has produced, and then go
backward to see what dogs are in his background, what
they looked like and produced.
27. When all is said and
done...and that sun goes down for the last time over your kennel, is
there anything that you hope will be remembered about you and and
your dogs?
Yes, I do hope
that our breeding program is remembered as producing good,
sound, healthy dogs. As for myself, I hope to be
remembered as being supportive of others in the sport and a
good loser - or winner.
28. Do you have any thoughts
you would like to add?
Only that I really
appreciate all of the support, encouragement, advice and
help given from others who have shared their knowledge with
me. I also greatly appreciate your help Kathy, nudges in the
right direction and learning along with you as a co-breeder. I have been very fortunate and have met many
wonderful people along the way.
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